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Re: Fuzz buster
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2012, 02:24:25 PM »
  • Their judgement is taken as fact in regards to multiple things.  What they say, have seen, or write down is all ammo against you and used by a judge or jury to decide with.

    Here's a little known fact I learned.  Cops do whatever the fuck they want.  "He fired onto the road, was swerving back and forth and then cut off this individual", blah, blah, blah... who are they going to believe, another punk or this upstanding police officer that puts his life in danger on the mean streets of Minnetonka?

    LOL!!!   and that is why I am itching to buy a camera for the bike- just in such events!
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    Re: Fuzz buster
    « Reply #26 on: April 25, 2012, 08:33:53 PM »
  • Whoa! I would never kick a puppy! What kinda monster you think I am lol! I'm not saying speeding is good even though we all do it- I was comparing the reason of a radar detector to speeding - the jammer is just a better route to go than a detector - if u are going to get anything at all - as far as tickets go, I may be wrong of course,  but I was under the impression from a guy who has done this,  when pulled over for speeding you can request to see the radar/laser device that the officer has clocked your speed,  if they cannot produce said proof, you can have the fine thrown out in court for lack of proof.  Also there should be an inspection sticker on the device which needs to be serviced/inspected every six months, and if it has not been than you can have it thrown out due to lack of accurate proof.  Finally in court if nothing else , you can demand to see the officers manifest "something" I can't remember exactly what it's called.  If the officer didn't bring it to court the case will be dismissed,  which according to the rider who told me all this said he has gotten 8 tickets dismissed by asking for all this proof.  I have never done any of them, I simply just pay my tickets lol- now this guy who told me is a friend of my buddy Miles Cunningham who lives in the cities, as in to say idk how reliable this guy was  - not saying any of this is true, but I know there are loop holes in every situation so who knows?! 

    This guy really cracks me up. I have heard of him for more than 40 years. And this has been the biggest bunch of BS there ever was. I wonder how much longer it will go on.
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    Re: Fuzz buster
    « Reply #27 on: April 25, 2012, 09:37:45 PM »
  • Big difference between a jammer and a detector. Just know that using a jammer is not legal in MN.

    Also all a laser detector will do is tell you that youíve been tagged by laser, at their widest beam the laser is not diffused enough to catch early enough to do you any good like radar. If a cop is in traffic they will be using the car mounted radar but if they are on the side of the road with the ďgunĒ they are using laser because it is more accurate than radar.

    The V1 is my favorite detector but people misuse them. They do not mount them properly to provide it the best unobstructed view. And then I watch people who have them jam on the breaks when it goes off, and thatís just as good as waving a big ass flag that says im speeding and I know you just tagged me with the radar or laser.
    If youíre going to speed be prepared to get a ticket. If you canít afford one or donít want one then donít speed on the streets go to the track. But if youíre going to play the game be prepared to pull over behave yourself take your ticket and be on your way. Pay it or fight it do whatever but donít have the attitude that itís not fair that you broke the law and got caught its part of the game.



    This man speaks the truth. If you speed, be prepared to get a ticket. The only thing the radar detector does is tell you that you just got caught.
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    Re: Fuzz buster
    « Reply #28 on: April 25, 2012, 09:42:02 PM »
  • This guy really cracks me up. I have heard of him for more than 40 years. And this has been the biggest bunch of BS there ever was. I wonder how much longer it will go on.

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    Re: Fuzz buster
    « Reply #29 on: April 25, 2012, 10:01:29 PM »
  • When you get a ticket be sure to try all those thing he said. You have to plead not guilty and when you lose the fine is a little higher. Before there was radar they used this on the squard cars speedo. It din't work then either.

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    Re: Fuzz buster
    « Reply #30 on: April 27, 2012, 01:08:45 PM »
  • Their judgement is taken as fact in regards to multiple things.  What they say, have seen, or write down is all ammo against you and used by a judge or jury to decide with.
    Time to page the ZG Lawyer!

    I'll try to be brief:

    Pretty much everything that MaNwOot and DVS_DAN said is correct.

    1.  Using a radar detector is fine in Minnesota.  I have never heard of somebody getting a ticket for a radar detector.  It will likely not make a police officer happy to see your valentine one sitting on the dashboard.  He or she may be less inclined to let you off with a warning if they see you have invested $400 into a V1.

    2.  Using a radar jammer is likely a misdemeanor.  As a general rule, you cannot interfere with with the electrical signals that are used by law enforcement while they are performing official duties.  You also can't listen to a police scanner if you are committing a crime.

    3.  Police do not need equipment to cite you based on your speed.  All they need to do is show there is probable cause for the violation, and then convince the trier of fact (judge or jury) that their opinion of your speed is more accurate then your opinion of your speed.  The trier of fact decides how much weight to put into this evidence.  Some cops are very good at this and will be able to impress a jury with the reliability of their visual speed estimates.

    "Very impressive, but to me that still isn't valid nor reliable.  They are making a judgement on what they believe your speed is in fact.  I would also be so bold to say there are officers out there who are biased, and would make up numbers and use them to get people in trouble, because they can accurately guess your speed.  If it isn't exact and reliable, I don't think it has any basis in a court of law." 

    I'm not going to spend much time here, but this is simply not how the rules of evidence work.  It's the trier of fact's job to determine if a specific piece of evidence is reliable and credible.  In order for them to make that determination, the state and the defense will argue about the details of that evidence, and the veracity of the statements that are made. 

    "....but I was under the impression from a guy who has done this,  when pulled over for speeding you can request to see the radar/laser device that the officer has clocked your speed,  if they cannot produce said proof, you can have the fine thrown out in court for lack of proof.  Also there should be an inspection sticker on the device which needs to be serviced/inspected every six months, and if it has not been than you can have it thrown out due to lack of accurate proof.  Finally in court if nothing else , you can demand to see the officers manifest "something" I can't remember exactly what it's called.  If the officer didn't bring it to court the case will be dismissed,  which according to the rider who told me all this said he has gotten 8 tickets dismissed by asking for all this proof.  I have never done any of them, I simply just pay my tickets lol- now this guy who told me is a friend of my buddy Miles Cunningham who lives in the cities, as in to say idk how reliable this guy was  - not saying any of this is true, but I know there are loop holes in every situation so who knows?!"

    This is just bad information.  There are no "loop holes".  You get a ticket, you either resolve it or you try the case.  The state does not need a radar detector to charge you with speeding.  If they want to relay SOLELY on the radar reading, you can fight about whether or not it's reliable and has been properly calibrated.  Then it's up to the trier of fact (judge/jury) to decide the facts of it's reliability.  The state does not need to produce the officers "manifest".

    I do not believe that somebody has gotten eight tickets dismissed by simply asking for proof.  Most city prosecutors will attempt to roast you if you have been cited more than 5 times, and they will not cave in if you ask for the radar detector.  If you can provide me this guys name I will happily search out the public records to set this straight.

    "- not saying any of this is true, but I know there are loop holes in every situation so who knows?!""

    There are not many loopholes in the Minnesota Statutes regarding common criminal offenses.

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    Re: Fuzz buster
    « Reply #31 on: April 27, 2012, 02:03:06 PM »
  • Pretty much everything that MaNwOot and DVS_DAN said is correct.
    I'll take this for safe keeping... thank you :D

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    Pretty much everything that DVS_DAN said is correct.

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    Re: Fuzz buster
    « Reply #32 on: April 27, 2012, 02:17:30 PM »
  • I'll take this for safe keeping... thank you :D

    Damnit Ben... what have you done?!


    Im not kidding our normal group would have mentally devastated this girl. Im talking years of therapy to even be able to tie her shoes again. She was nice enough girl but she was in over her head.

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    Re: Fuzz buster
    « Reply #33 on: April 27, 2012, 04:28:19 PM »
  • Damnit Ben... what have you done?!
    Helped me with my new signature, BAH HA HA HAAAAA!  :D

    But long story short, radar detectors suck.  I had one but it wasn't very useful.  They pop you with the laser and before you can figure out if your alarm clock is sounding, phone is ringing, door bell chiming, or radar detector is going of; the cop is setting his coffee and donuts aside as he pulls the car out of park so he can go get you.  I guess they work when they are shooting radar at everyone but they don't do it often.

    I wouldn't mind a fuzz buster that could let me slow down and then turn it off so they could get my speed when I want them to. 
    « Last Edit: April 27, 2012, 04:33:59 PM by DVS_DAN »

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    Re: Fuzz buster
    « Reply #34 on: April 27, 2012, 06:46:11 PM »
  • Long live Miles Cunningham.


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